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Published by Ninth Stage June 27th, 2007 in Guns.
I have a .22 magazine and I don’t know what it fits. It looks a lot like a magazine for a Winchester Model 69A. The first image shows this unknown magazine next to a 69A magazine (click for a larger view). The rest of the images show it’s odd features.
The main odd feature is the black piece on the bottom of the magazine that looks like it’s made of Bakelite. The magazine is solidly attached to the black piece. Note also the shallow notch on the rear of the magazine. It seems that this notch is where the mag is retained in a weapon. This is different than the 69A mag which has a small protrusion on the right side for that purpose.
So the questions are, what gun is this magazine for? And, if the answer to the first question doesn’t explain it, what is the black “Bakelite” piece for?
Any information would be appreciated.
UPDATE: In comments, deadcenter suggests that it’s for a Remington 511. This picture from an exploded view sure looks like it.
So how did you manage to end up with this mystery magazine?
So, thinking it looks familiar do you? ;)
It was given to me by a friends father. He didn’t know what it’s for either.
No, I don’t have any idea. It just looks really strange to me with the magazine offset from that bottom part.
It looks alot like a CZ-452 mag,.
http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/images/cz_452_22_steel.jpg
A buddy of mine has a Chinese trainer,which is a knock of Czech Mouser in .22lr.
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/Pictures/22_0019.JPG
At least this is what the magazine looks like to me.
Looks like the magazine from a Remington 511 Scoremaster. If it’s a 5-round mag, then I think the bumper at the bottom will fit flush with the stock. Remington made a 10-round magazine that extended below the stock.
Thanks for the info Michael and deadcenter.
I looked at the link for the 452 mag but in the image it doesn’t seem to have the shallow notch at the rear this one has. I do have a 452 myself so I could give it a try, let you know how it works tomorrow.
The Remington 511 magazine looks more like it.
Now all we need to do is figure out once and for all what the black magazine bas is for.
I’d guess it’s some kind of homebrew modification to make the magazine easier to remove from the gun.
No TD, I don’t think so. It is well made (but somewhat beat up by time) molded professionally and must serve some purpose.
There is a hole through it, counterbored from the top, and a molded in boss or protrusion on the bottom. I’ve hesitated in describing it so as not to color any guesses but so far there haven’t been any good explanations.
I’ve thought that it might adapt something to the gun but what? A flashlight? A camera? A bipod? None of it makes good sense and why does if curve up and only extend to one side? It’s a mystery to me.
Okay, this is going to sound crazy, but I’m wondering if that bakelite base pad might be related to, hold on to your hats, biathlon. If not biathlon, some other shooting sport that uses a base pad either to keep the magazine upright, or maybe the reason for the offset in basepad is there to make it easier to strip out of the mag carrier. My IPSC mags have base pads on them to make it easier to seat them when reloading, so I started thinking about why your mag would have a basepad. Surfed around some biathlon websites, one mentions that the hole in the side, assuming it’s 1″ below the top, being there to check that your mag has 5 rounds in it and not more. Extra ammo at the end of a race gets you DQ’ed.
Anyhoo, just an off the wall thought.
Being an IPSC (OK, USPSA really) shooter myself, “base pad” was the first thing that came to mind. I like the Biathlon idea but I still can’t work out how it plays out.
The bottom ot rh base pad is curved and has a pin protruding from it. Offset to the side is a hole with a counterbore on the top (opposite the pin) side. I suppose you could bolt a bunch of mags to a ring to keep them all at hand . . . But WHY?!?!
I’m going to let this post go un-sticky but please feel free to guess or, better yet, definitively explain what it’s for.